Arizona shooting tragedy

it seems this guy was a nut who came unhinged. Yet the left are already politicizing this. I went to find information on the shooting, and I was bombarded with anti-right propaganda.

in fact I saw one message that said "First they spew their hate, now they pull their guns... my democrat friends, please understand this is serious. if your neighbors supported conservative candidates, keep your doors locked cause they will kill you eventually." and this guy was serious!!

I even saw someone call tea-partiers Murderers. that's why I've decided to post on this site after having not posted in over a year. I'm so sick of liberals trying to push their agenda by using a horrendous tragedy that ALL are grieving.

I mean, Seriously? A child was murdered along with other innocent civilians, a federal judge was murdered and others including the congresswoman are fighting for their lives... and the left are already trying to politicize this.

here's a few facts for any liberal that may read this...

1. The congresswoman was republican at one time. She became democrat because of her pro-choice stance... however she is pro-2nd amendment, pro-border control, anti-bailout and pro-congress pay cuts. she basically was democrat but had many conservative views as well.

2. The federal judge murdered was appointed by President BUSH. A REPUBLICAN president

3. The guy lists his favorite books to include the Communist manifesto and Mein Kaumf. not something high on a republican's favorite list. Most conservatives are anti-communist propaganda.

4. The shooter did not believe in God as it is stated he made mention that he was angered at receiving a bible at a recruitment center, and he stated he would not put his trust in God. Most conservatives are God fearing people.

5. He claims the government is mind controlling the public through grammar...

So how can you say this was conservative/tea party caused? She was as conservative as is possible for a democrat, the judge was appointed by a republican president, and this guy seemed obsessed with grammar and communist writings...

this guy was a nutjob who came unhinged. Read some of the crap he's released. It's neither conservative nor liberal in thinking. It's lunatic in thinking.

so how is this tea party? It makes me want to cry that the left (especially on MSNBC's comments page) are using this tragedy to push their anti-right agenda. this isn't about right, it isn't about left, it isn't about up or down, it's about a nut job who came unhinged and murdered a bunch of innocent people and put many more in the hospital to fight for their lives, and they need the prayers of ALL Republican and Democrat, conservative and Liberals and if (some, not all) liberals can't see that, and see this only as a political ploy, then I'd say "shame on you" but they have no shame.

I pray for her family, and the families of all the victims as well as for the victims still bravely fighting for their lives.

our country is in dangerous trouble

I wish we start a recall/impeachment effort and force them into the unemployment line like their constituants who hired them to fix this mess the DEMS caused. (not Bush... THE DEMS.)

Fanny and Fred started it all... the republicans came to the senate with their concerns... the Dems replied with "if nothings broke, don't fix it. Things are fine." Now they're trying to blame the republicans for what happened to the economy??

What happened to the billions of jobs that were to be created if we passed Obama's spendulus package... NOW?

What happened to the credit card company help? after the shit I went through with one of my credit cards, and after I got a letter from all my cards saying my interest rates are going up... thanks for the help Obama.

They did such a great job after taking over the auto industry.

now we have this health care bill.

This bill that IS going to pass, is a disaster.

Is this bill pro-choice? No. At least not in the way you think. If you're PRO abortion, this bill is for you. If you are anti-abortion, then this bill says screw you. You have the right to choose to murder an innocent human being... but they take away my choice... MY RIGHT... to not support murder, by taking my hard earned money and using it to fund abortions. What about my rights? what about my choice to be against abortion?

they say "abortion is not going to be federally funded" yet they refused to add the stupak ammendment which is worded so that it can not be snuck in. So... in otherwords, eventually they'll re-word it so abortion is funded by my tax money.

90% of abortions are after the fact birth control, not medical emergencies or rapes... just dumb (usually) teens who feel like doing what feels good, to hell with the conciquences. If you're too much of a slut to keep your legs closed... YOU pay to murder a child... I shouldn't have to be a part of it.

They're praising that it's going to cost under a trillion dollars... (Like $60,000 under a trillion is such a deal), but like they admit... this estimate is only a GUESS. So more than likely it will cost OVER a trillion.

They are taking away our right to decide what kind of insurance we want, if we want to get any at all... by threat of jail and high fines if we don't do as they say.

There are also stipulations that sound suspiciously like they want to tell people how to raise their kids. What's next? telling them how many kids they can have?

No one has really read this bill, not even the President by his own admission... Pelosi the moron that she is, claims we have to pass the bill... THEN we can know what's in it. Seriously? Isn't that backwards... shouldn't we KNOW what we're getting into and if it's actually good for the country BEFORE it's passed?

The dems that were on the fence have turned their no votes to yes votes. How? Strong arm tactics and bribery basically. In fact, one so much as admitted he was a no till Obama hosted him on Airforce One. One recently admitted Obama promised to work on Imigration reform if he votes yes... In this bill are all sorts of special deals for states whose politicians would have otherwise voted no...

To get this passed Obama and Pelosi both admitted they'd piss on the constitution. (not in so many words) The constitution isn't a suggestion for God's Sake!! Do you realize if they can't bribe or batter enough people into a yes vote, they'll just Deem it passed?

Deem it passed. Do you know who deems things to be done... Dictators, Monarchies. The constitution was created to separate themselves from the Monarchy. Its the whole point of voting, majority rules and such.

All they talk about is how "historic" this bill will be. They're more worried about their legacy than they are about the people.

The majority of Americans (even those who believe in health care reform) say, scrap this bill... start over, and this time, no closed door meetings, no telling republicans "you broke this, we don't want your help fixing it", no more shutting out the media from these meetings, and the bill should be available for more than just 72 hours before the vote.

but no. It's not about the people. Its about a legacy.

they all say... do you want to have to pay for those who don't have health insurance or have bad insurance for when they get expensive treatments and the tax payers have to pay for it?

Um... how is that going to change? Many of the items in this bill are federally funded. Who funds the feds? tax money. who pays tax money... I mean... Freakin DUHHHHHHHHH

This is insanity! I mean, serious insanity... it has to stop. I hate to wait till november to kick them out of office. I wish we could fire them all now, send them to the unemployment line, and impeach Obama for pissing on the constitution.

No longer calling it a "war on terror", hows that working?

In November, a Muslim Psychiatrist at Fort Hood opened fired and massacured fellow American Soldiers after yelling "Allauh Akbar".

In December, a Muslim who claimed to be trained by Al Quida... was able to get on a plane with a bomb before he was caught.

Now there is breaking news.

Around the same time as the attempted bombing of a detroit bound plane... 5 Muslim American soldiers were arrested for the attempted poisoning of the food source at Fort Jackson which could have killed fellow American Soldiers.

I've also learned from a news report that the "Fort Jackson 5" were allegedly in contact with 5 other DC area Muslims who traveled to Pakistan to declare Jihad against US Soldiers there. (They were arrested by Pakistani police).

And yet Obama wants to close down Gitmo and refrain from using the phrase "War on terror"?

Seriously, how's that going for ya?

Texas Plane Crash - Suicide Pilot NOT Right-winger

We've been bombarded by the left wing media using the suicide/murder/murder attempt of Joseph Andrew Stack as a way to attack the tea partiers once again. They claim he is proof of how dangerous "tea baggers" are, and how loony the far right have become.

There's one problem with this sumation... and it lies in Mr. Stark's suicide note.

1. He mentioned hating Bush many times
2. He mentioned hating big business and greedy CEOs
3. He mentioned hating insurance companies and big pharmacuticals, claiming they were responsible for the 'murder' of millions of people in the name of profit
4. He mentioned hating organized religion, especially Christianity (catholics specifically)
5. He mentioned a quote that puts a positive light on communism and a negative light on capitolism.

THIS IS THE LIBERAL MANTRA!! Big business bad, big bad pharmacuticals and insurance companies bad, Capitalism bad, Communism, Socialism good, Religion/Christianity bad, Bush... anti-christ.

His rant was as far left as Pelosi. Hell, Bill Ayres would be impressed.

I don't know of any pro-communism/socialism, anti-religion, anti-big business, pro health care reform, Bush hating Tea Party goers.

Of course, I notice sites like MSNBC and CNN who've been pushing the "tea bagger" angle have removed the links to the suicide note. (Though you can still find it online by googling it.)

But what can you expect from those "convienent news only" news organizations? Not only are they misrepresenting this nut bar who murdered an innocent person and endangered many others because he was off his rocker, as a right wing nut when he is way far left...

but they also neglect to mention how the professor who shot and killed/injured her collegues, who was investigated for allegedly setting a pipe bomb in another professor's mailbox a while back... and "accidentally" shot and killed her brother... is OBSESSED with Obama and is a fanatic supporter of his policies.

Biden says War in Iraq a success thanks to OBAMA?!

Biden and Obama were against the war in Iraq. Plain and simple Biden and Obama both believed the surge was a mistake, and under Bush's administration, they were ready to call it "Mission failed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZBtJPtkLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_igpyewuzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yAt6SoZbkE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5thPwpddUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpYxD7heR08

All the above videos are Obama talking about how the surge was a failure. Even though "The surge was largely accredited to bringing the level of violence in Iraq down." (Katie Couric)

As you can see, Obama over and over said the surge wasn't a success, the surge was a failure, the surge would make things worse.

NOW Uncle Joe comes in and says... THANKS TO OBAMA Iraq is a success!

THANKS TO OBAMA? WHAT DID OBAMA DO FOR IRAQ? He's promised to bring troops home, but as of yet hasn't... he started a war in Afghanistan which I've heard even on MSNBC is more dangerous at times than the war in Iraq was... he worked on a failed health care bill, went to copenhagen to fail to get the Olympics for Chicago, took his wife to Paris...

WHAT DID THEY DO FOR IRAQ??

So you're saying, even though there is PLENTY of evidence the SURGE WAS A SUCCESS, and not only lowered the level of violence, but the start of stability to the country under Bush's administration... the success must be attributed to Obama who DID NOTHING?

SERIOUSLY?

OMG who let uncle joe out of the nursing home without his senility pills? Put him back in his rubber room with the video of President FDR talking to the people on TV in 1929 when he wasn't president and TVs were not household items... and tell him to made a house out of popcicle sticks to keep him from saying more rediculous things!

I love how when things go wrong in Obama's administration, it's Bush's fault. When things go right (that started to go right under Bush's administration) it's thanks to Obama.

Give me a freakin break already. How can liberals still defend this guy despite the obvious idiodicy???

Dems are imploding on themselves

Howard Yee-haw Dean just had a huge explosive yelling match with Tingle up the leg Matthews... Coakely is blaming the lack of support for her loss, the Dems in the senate are blaming her for her own loss... Olbermann and Maddow are just plain delusional saying they lost MA because they're not being radical enough...

they lost one of the most liberal states in the nation to a republican... They have the scandal with John Edwards, who finally admitted what EVERYONE knew... the baby his mistress had IS his... A teary faced Pelosi admits Obamacare is pretty much done in it's current form... it's obvious the dems are going to have a tough time this fall during elections...The extreme left wingers are blogging that they're losing faith in Obama...

Now they're losing Air America. Bankrupt... soon to go off the air. (no surprise though... even liberals would rather listen to Rush Limbaugh than the dribble on Air America)

And... the courts just lifted restrictions on campaign corporate spending... which everyone knows will work in favor of the republicans and third party candidates... working against the democrats.

Looks like the majority of Americans DON'T want to be socialists with the government running every aspect of their lives, after all.

Keith Obermann is really delusional isn't he?

I did something I rarely do. I watched MSNBC to see how they're covering the recent election.

this is what I got out of Olbermann

1. Scott Brown is homophobic

2. Scott Brown is pro violence against women

3. Scott Brown isn't conservative, he's playing the center

4. He only won because Obama supporters didn't come out

5. He only won because the majority of voters thought the Health care bill isn't radical enough, because the majority of voters are pro-health care reform... including a public option and such.

ok, well if he's homophobic, so are the majority if Americans. Sorry to disappoint you - but when brought to a vote, the majority clearly state they want to keep the meaning of marriage as between a man and a woman. In fact, it's not even a close race... it's an overwhelming majority, as we saw in California, a very liberal state.

as for pro violence against women? Oldman cited a rally where someone yelled that we should shove an iron up Coakley's rear. Once again, Olbermann agreed with an eyeroll that it was possible he didn't hear it. (once again they forget the rule that just because it's picked up by the mic of a person standing next to the dufas, doesn't mean everyone else can hear it over the crowd, especially with large crowds such as he pulled, as opposed to the crowd coakly was pulling.)

However he said, even if he didn't hear it, he should denounce it now. Where were you to denounce Sandra Burnardt when she said if Palin came to NY she'd have her gang raped by "her black bruthas". Where was Olbermann to denounce Madonna when she said she was going to kick Palin's A$$? where was Olbermann to denounce the disgusting jokes Lettermann made about Palin's teenage daughter?

Give me a break. Like anyone other than a liberal nut could take Olbermann seriously in this case.

So Scott Brown is playing center? Well if you think he's homophobic... how can he be center? He's not playing up to the pro-gay marriage voters. If he's playing center, how come he keeps saying he's Scott Brown 41... the 41st vote AGAINST The health care bill. He didn't say he was pro reform only not what they're offering... he said he's pro-killing the bill completely.

Which brings me to his point that Brown was only picked because the democrats aren't radical enough on the health care bill?

Really? So... the people want more... they want abortion in the bill, they want the taxes coming with the bill... they want the removal of Medicare from one state to pay off another so they'll vote for the bill... they want a public option.

That's why they voted for someone who said he's the 41st vote to kill the bill completely. "We want more, so lets vote for the guy who says he wants nothing at all! yay! that makes so much more sense than voting for the one who will at least vote to pass SOMETHING through!"

Not to mention... the majority of people WANT this reform? Seriously? That's why Obama's approval started tanking during the Health Care fiasco. Why do the majority of those polled say they don't trust this HC bill? Why are democrats, independants and conservatives alike fighting this HC bill at tea parties?

And about the fact Obama's supporters didn't come out... why didn't they? I mean, my god, we're not talking about some republican winning MA. we're talking about a conservative winning the land of Kennedy... the land of John Kerry... Hell, a man on this side of the red line won Bawney Fwank's deep Bawoo distwict.

How can Olbermann and Rachel Mad Cow be so delusional and still remain on tv.

Oh, I forgot... it's MSNBC. I was probably the only one watching.

The people have spoken

they downplayed the people speaking in VA by kicking out the democrat in office. They downplayed the people speaking in NJ by kicking out the democrat in office. They downplayed the people speaking in NY when the democrats almost lost in a race that was too close to call when they thought it would be an easy double digit win...

now they're trying to downplay Brown's win in MA, a Kennedy/democrat state for how many decades?

Rachel Mad Cow on PMSNBC is talking about how there is already evidence of voter fraud and how Brown's use of Robo calls was underhanded, slimey, sleezy election techniques.

Really Mad Cow? So... it wasn't voter fraud when Frankenstein won by more votes than people actually live in Minnesota? It wasn't voter fraud when democrats recounting the votes kept saying... "They voted for the republican, but I'M SURE they MEANT to vote for Franken, so we'll count this as Franken's vote"?

What about the 30 robo calls I got from Obama during the presidential elections? What about all the robo calls made by the dems on Coakley's behalf during this MA election? Those weren't underhanded, slimey, sleezy election tactics?

it makes me freakin laugh. I think though, no matter how they spin it... this has to have dems up for re-election nervous.

Good.

I've come to the conclusion...

Liberals are completely delusional.

I was watching the View... (nothing else was on) and they were talking about how Barack Obama gave himself a B+ for his first year. Of course Elizabeth thought he was delusional for giving himself that grade, and the other libs, especially that loudmouth Joy Boar, had to prove THEY are the ones who are delusional.

They go off on how Bush did this and Bush did that. I think they forget... ITS NOT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION. and if Obama isn't a magician and nothing is his fault... well what about Bush? He wasn't a magician either, what makes Obama's job so much harder than what Bush inherited?

The black woman on the show, I can't remember her name... said "My unemployed friends are thankful to Obama for extending the unemployment benefits."

Well ONE... why are your friends unemployed still? Where are these millions and millions of jobs Obama PROMISED would be created if we passed his stimulus NOW? and what about those who were not eligable for extended unemployment benefits? (The extension did not effect those unemployed before a certain month, I think September or October... they did NOT get an extension.)

They keep talking about how he worked miracles when it comes to jobs. HOW? Because we supposedly went from 10.2% to 10%?

ok... put your brains back in your head.

1. we went from 9.6% to 9% then jumped to 10.2% so just because we go down a few percentage points does not mean things are improving, as we proved when we jumped passed 10%.

2. how did we drop .2% the jobless rate when over 11,000 MORE people became unemployed in November, and even more than that REMAIN unemployed?

3. Wasn't it Obama who PROMISED if we pass his trillion dollar stimulus like, yesterday, that we wouldn't see above 8% unemployment?

sooooo... lets take a look at the girl's logic again. where exactly did Obama work miracles in the jobless situation? Oh that's right, he didn't cause it's Bush's fault.

It's Bush's fault a stimulus everyone said would fail and just put us in a bigger deficit actually failed because it was rushed through. It's Bush's fault no one in the senate read the stimulus bill, or the current health care proposal thouroughly.

here's another request to look at things logically.

our unemployment rate under Bush was under 8% and held steady under 8%. Obama came in and said... if we pass his massive spending bill, not only would we create jobs, we wouldn't see unemployment reach 8%.

The spendulus passed and unemployment SKYROCKETED and continues to rise (despite how they fudge the numbers with this jobs 'saved' crap.)

that's not Bush. we held steady under 8% with Bush. He also made no promises unemployement wouldn't go up or down. Obama took over and made so many promises that he couldn't keep.

under Bush we went to Iraq, and now Iraq is a less dangerous place than Afghanistan, in fact, recently, Afghanistan has seen days deadlier than Iraq saw at the height of the war. Iraq was Bush's war, Afghanistan is Obama's. Bush's general had confidence in Bush... Obama's General was starting to threaten that we are in "mission NOT accomplished" danger.

Everyone complained about Bush's going out and golfing... in his first few months... Obama had more Golfing vacations than Bush had his entire presidency...

Bush took advice from the people he hired to give him advice... but he also listened to the people... Obama doesn't listen to anyone. The stimulus everyone said would fail... the health care plan no one but libs want... Bush kept a lot of promises he made whether you liked them or not... Obama hasn't kept a one. Job loss is passed 8%, he didn't bring the troops home as he promised, in fact he sent them all to Afghanistan, forget about not taxing those making under $250,000. With cap and trade, with carbon taxes, with the new health care bill... everyone and their uncles are going to get taxed.

Lets talk about the promise of this being the administration of transparency.

Closed door meetings shutting republicans out

remember the photo op of him saluting the caskets of dead Iraq war soldiers? Do you see any photos of the Afghanistan dead?

The majority of his cabinet is made up of extreme liberals (9/11 conspiracy theorists, and those who support the man/child love orginization)... the rest are Liberals. (What happened to there being room in his administration for republicans?)

I mean come on.

This stopped being Bush's fault the MOMENT Obama made promises about the economy and job rate... and forced his stimulus plan through without giving anyone a chance to really look through it.

Those brash moves made this OBAMA'S economy, OBAMA'S Administration, and OBAMA'S problem. It no longer has ANYTHING to do with Bush.

So for all of that, those liberal mouth peices on "the View" are just as delusional as Obama who claims he deserves a B+.

Bleak outlook for Sen. Dodd

As further proof the Government Run Health Care bill is a big mistake, let's look at Sen. Dodd's current outlook for re-election.

In a current Quinnipiac University poll, Sen. Dodd is losing to Frmr Republican congressman Rob Simmons... 49% to 38%

Former WWE exec Linda McMahon is also leading Dodd, 43% to 41%.

And since supporting the Government Run Health Care bill... Dodd's disapproval rating is 54% to 40% approval.

So, they lost VA, they lost NJ, they almost lost (and still could possibly lose) NY-23...

now it looks like Dodd could be out of a job.

of course Dodd's camp says this is bunk and that his work for Health Care has done nothing but strengthen his campaign...

but we all know THAT is what's bunk.

Perhaps the Dems should not celebrate yet.

The democrats claimed the race in VA and NJ didn't matter, that they were just "local races"... yet they celebrated the win in NY-23 like it was vindication for Obama.

Here's how they are delusional.

1. in VA, they were so impressed with the Obama mania that they went from red to blue in one election.

However, after everything that's been oing on... Private businesses being taken over, Job loss at a 20 year high, Government health care being forced down our throat with the threat of jail if we don't assimulate...

They went back to red in a Republican sweep a few weeks ago. Over a third of VA's polled said they were "sending a message to the white house". What message do you think that is? Electing all republicans and outsing the democrats?

2. In NJ they expected to win, especially since NJ is so liberal, and has been run by a democrat for as far back as one can remember.

They lost to a republican. Yet, the democrats don't seem to see that "message".

3. The one race they're celebrating that actually matters to them... NY-23... two reasons they shouldn't celebrate just yet.

a. They expected to sweep the race with double digits... they expected to completely shove the conservative's face in the dirt... yet the race was actually only a 3 point spread. Enough to ask for a recount.

b. the count for the race continues... and the Dem's lead narrows. Now there is only a 3,000 vote difference between him and the conservative nominee, with 10,000 absentee balots to count.

while the Dem may still come out on top, it will be by an even narrower margin, which means... they couldn't even easily win an election that should have been a no brainer for them.

that spells trouble whether they want to see the writing on the wall or not.

they better think long and hard about that in the senate cause this Health care bill could put them in line with all the unemployed waiting for benefits.

They lost VA who were Obamanuts during the 2008 elections... they lost NJ who is usually so liberal... they almost (and could still) lose NY-23 in an election that should have been an easy win.

Instead of saying how wonderful it was to win NY-23, you should see how close the race was, and how much closer its getting as the absentee balots are being counted... and say to yourselves "Wow, we need to think about this before the white house goes red in 2010."

What's in the HC bill

The health bill that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi brought to a vote, and passed on Saturday (H.R. 3962) is 1,990 pages. Here are some of the details you need to know.

What the government will require you to do:


• Sec. 202 (p. 91-92) of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan." If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a "qualified plan," meaning a plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. If you buy your own insurance, there's no grace period. You'll have to enroll in a qualified plan as soon as any term in your contract changes, such as the co-pay, deductible or benefit.


• Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.


On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.


• Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the "qualified plan" is not yet designed, it will be of the "one size fits all" variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels—but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. You will have to enroll in the same plan, whether the government is paying for it or you and your employer are footing the bill.


• Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement. (What do you think this means?????)


• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a "qualified plan" for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less. (What do you think will happen as a result of this provision???????)


Eviscerating Medicare:


In addition to reducing future Medicare funding by an estimated $500 billion, the bill fundamentally changes how Medicare pays doctors and hospitals, permitting the government to dictate treatment decisions.


• Sec. 1302 (pp. 672-692) moves Medicare from a fee-for-service payment system, in which patients choose which doctors to see and doctors are paid for each service they provide, toward what's called a "medical home."


The medical home is this decade's version of HMO-restrictions on care. A primary-care provider manages access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests for a flat monthly fee. The bill specifies that patients may have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as the primary-care provider. Medical homes begin with demonstration projects, but the HHS secretary is authorized to "disseminate this approach rapidly on a national basis."


A December 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that "medical homes" were likely to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago if cost control was a priority.


• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.


• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country. This will reduce payments for care (and by implication the standard of care) for hospital patients in higher cost areas such as New York and Florida.


• Sec. 1161 (pp. 520-545) cuts payments to Medicare Advantage plans (used by 20% of seniors). Advantage plans have warned this will result in reductions in optional benefits such as vision and dental care.


• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of "medical items and services."


Questionable Priorities:


While the bill will slash Medicare funding, it will also direct billions of dollars to numerous inner-city social work and diversity programs with vague standards of accountability.


• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community "entities" with no required qualifications except having "documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers" to "educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities" aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. "Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program."


These programs will "enhance the capacity of individuals to utilize health services and health related social services under Federal, State and local programs by assisting individuals in establishing eligibility . . . and in receiving services and other benefits" including transportation and translation services.


• Sec. 222 (p. 617) provides reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services. This program will train health-care workers to inform Medicare beneficiaries of their "right" to have an interpreter at all times and with no co-pays for language services.


• Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437) establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should "give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population." And secondary-school grants should go to schools "graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities."


• Sec. 305 (p. 189) Provides for automatic Medicaid enrollment of newborns who do not otherwise have insurance.


For the text of the bill with page numbers, see www.defendyourhealthcare.us.

Bottom line, if enacted, YOU WILL UNQUESTIONABLY PAY MORE for health insurance be it on the government program, or through an employer, and it is hard not to believe that the QUALITY OF CARE won't suffer dramatically.

Folks, this DISASTER has gone to the Senate. THIS MUST BE STOPPED. I suspect that what will happen is that the Senate will try pass "something", it will go to conference, and then it will be re-introduced using the "rules of reconciliation" in which case, it can pass without debate and a simply majority vote in both chambers.

Contact your Senators, and contact ANY Senator with a "D" by their name as well as Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, and even John McCain while you are at it. (Repubs)

Parts of this blog taken from: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052748704795604574519671055918380-lMyQjAxMDA5MDAwOTEwNDkyWj.html

Thanks to "adoseoftruth" for this info

A word of advice for pro-HC bill democrats

Before you democratic senators vote on this HC bill remember a few things.

1. Most of people who can make or break your career... are against this bill.

2. VA who was so pro-Obama that then went from red to blue... was retaken by republicans this past week. a third of voters said their vote was to 'send a message to the White house'

3. NJ who is fairly democrat and has been led by democrats for decades, went republican... and not by as small as a margin as dems predicted. (In fact, dems predicted THEY would win.)

4. NY wasn't that big of a win for you. The predictions were for the democratic nominee to win by double digits. This was a too close for democrat's comfort 3 point win. It was so tight that there is a message there for Dems. You even had a hard time winning a 'sure thing'.

5. 2010 is a big election for ya'all. if this hc bill goes through, I see many voters taking the VA route, and voting to 'send a message to the White house'... and you'll be the ones paying for it.

You will be joining the 10.2% of unemployed.

Just food for thought.

Jobs saved and created... Belony

DOOM GLOOM... 'if you don't pass my TRILLION dollar stimulus plan NOW' DOOM GLOOM 'we have to pass it now' RUSH RUSH HURRY HURRY 'if we pass the stimulus plan now, we WON'T see an increase of unemployment past 8%.' DOOM GLOOM

So Obama Got his way and the stimulus was passed before anyone had any idea what was in it. (Like millions of dollars going to pay off teacher unions, and millions of dollars going to pay off ACORN, and hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent on studying radioactive rabbit poop)

It was suppose to be the miracle. it was suppose to be our savior... it was suppose to create thousands upon thousands of jobs and save countless others.

Yet here we sit at 10.2%... the biggest job loss rate since the 80s.

Yet Obama can sit there and look the American public in the eye and tell us he's created so many jobs and saved so many others... despite the fact people are still getting laid off from their jobs... and remain unable to find employment.

So how can the government claim they created all these jobs? Here's how. This was recently discovered.

In Ohio... 6 (TEMPORARY mind you) construction jobs were created for this one project.

There were 5 construction workers, and one site manager.

They looked at the number of hours worked each day... and multiplied that by the number of days/months the job was going to take.

Lets say these 6 worked 14 hours a day, and it will take 3 months (which is about 91 days)

Instead of saying these 6 people have a solid 1200 HOURS of work... they're saying they created 1200 JOBS.

it is suspected that, this is why the number of jobs "created" is going up, while the number of gainfully employed continues to decrease.

Another thing they are not saying about these "jobs created" is that the MAJORITY of them are only temporary, and once the jobs are over, the workers will once again be unemployed.

As for jobs saved... that's just plain stupidity and anyone who buys into it are just plain dumb.

Do you really think the government goes from job to job to job and asks "If but for the stimulus, were you going to lay workers off?"

And I guarantee you no business would offer that information unless asked, so how can they truly and accurately account for jobs saved? They can't.

HC Reform passed the house, God help us all

I'm one of the few on the web who is against this health care bill.

Did anyone really pay attention, or do you just follow as you're told by Obama and Pelosi?

I've declared my official independance from either party a while ago since I think the republicans are a bunch of Rhinos like that "republican" from NY who dropped out of the governor's race... she was pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and fiscally liberal. Putting an (R) behind her name doesn't make her a true republican... The republicans have become a party of (insert female anatomy here. I'll accept boobs, and even the P and C words.)

Republican use to stand for conservative core values... Now they're just a tad right to liberal. (There are a few good'ins in the bunch like Wis. Representative Paul Ryan...) but those good'ins should break away and start a strong third party or throw out the Rhinos from the republican party.

I'll say this for most Dems, I don't agree with anything they stand for (the stimulus, pro-choice, the healthcare bill), at least they stand for something, unlike Snowe who claims to be a Republican but then supports democratic legislations that the majority of her constituants does NOT want...

But I digress...


and I think Liberals are just off base on many accounts to the detrament of the people... as seen by this stimulus that just put us a trillion more dollars in debt without having any positive effects on our jobless rate.

I don't like the republican party, I don't like the democratic party. So I don't believe either one when it comes to anything unless I do my own research.

In the early stages, parts of the HC bill were accessible to the general public. Because people started reading it, Pelosi passed a measure that stated NO parts of the bill will be accessible to the public. (Transparency for you.)

However, I got to read parts of the original bill before it was pulled. I also listened to what people had to say about the bill on both sides, including what President Obama himself had to say.

As early as today... the HC bill passed the house and is moving onto the senate.

what is in the bill?

By the democrat's OWN ADMISSION... they stated that the health care bill will cover 98% of Americans without health care. (BTW, it's not as cheap as ya'all think it's gonna be. For a trillion dollar bill to pass, it's going to hit in the pocket books of every american.)

For small businesses that can not afford to offer healthcare, or choose not to, there is a hefty fine.

for private citizens who can not get into a health care program due to costs or pre-existing conditions, but refuse to sign up for the government run option... there is a hefty fine. (past what someone in my situation could afford.) Can't pay the fine? You'll have to do the time (jail)

the original bill mentioned a tax increase of 2.8% on citizens who HAVE insurance they are happy with... but if it is not Obama approved... they will be taxed. So in otherwords, you can keep your doctors and insurance if you're happy with it... but we'll politely tax you into reconsidering.

This isn't made up... this is from the mouths of the democrats themselves.
There are many references to end of life care in the Obama bill. Obama has made reference to the fact that a doctor should have the right to tell a patient that a surgery is not going to work, and give the patient pain pills and end of life counceling.

here's an example of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

the woman's mother needed a pace maker, she was 100 years old.. she had a joy for life, but one doctor said she was too old and the surgery would be detramental. A second opinion got her that pace maker... AND SHE LIVED. She's now 105 years old.

Obama told her basically doctors have a right to say no and put you on pain killers instead of giving you potentially life saving treatement.

this is not the first time he has said things like this.

Furthermore...

Does anyone know the story of the woman from Oregon? Barbara Wagner had terminal cancer... and she was denied 3x for treatment she desparately needed to extend her life. She wanted to live, she pleaded for help with news orginizations to help her get the help she needed to live.

She was offered only 'comfort care' (end of life councelling) and phsysician aided suicide. (The suicide pill is actually less expensive than the cancer treatment, thus a way to cut cost.)

big bad pharmacuticals who want to steal our money and charge us horrible prices for our medicine, heard her story on the news, and gave her the cancer treatments FOR FREE.

She passed away shortly after however, because she spent so much time waiting to be approved by the state run healthcare (Which is VERY VERY similar to the health care being forced upon us...) that it was too late for her.

Hawaii, Obama's homestate, implemented a similar governement run health care plan in their state which is similiar to the one Obama dreams of passing for all the US.

It failed so bad, they ended the plan after 7 months.

Why do you think many of those with government run health care plans in their countries, come to America for treatment? Because costs have been cut so much to keep costs down... they are unable to buy the diagnostic equipment we have, they are unablet to afford the treatments available here in the US.

People need to understand... our system is very flawed and something needs to be done... and making sure everyone has health care sounds like a great idea...

but at what cost? Do you realize what cost you have put upon someone like my 95 year old great aunt? Like my diabetic grandmother? Like my cousin who currently does not have insurance and is happy the way things are? (he ended up in the emergency room with broken ribs... he had MRI's, X-Rays, CT Scans... the bill was well over $12,000. because he had no insurance and was laid off of work (so much for the stimulus plan saving jobs)... they had him sign up for a customer care program that would relieve some of the bill.

Normally they'd offer a payment plan on the discounted price... but because of his jobless situation... they erased his debt completely. $12,000 gone.

With the new HC plan... that kind of kindness will not be possible.

Now my best friend has a health care plan he's happy with that covers his wife and kids as well. It's expensive as all heck, but it's a good plan. Above all the taxes he and his wife already pays... they're going to be docked another 2.8% if the government decideds they do not like the plan they're under??

He expressed to me how he can't afford 2.8% more taxes. That seems like a small number... but if you only make so much money... it's almost like saying, 1000%...

also... I am ashamed to admit, I'm one of the 10.2% of unemployed. Do you think I can afford the fine that would be thrashed down upon me for not signing up to put my life in the government's hands??

And what will happen if my 95 year old aunt needs Chemo should she develop cancer? She's a spry old thing, she is sharper than I am, and I'm in my early 30's. She walks every day, she eats the right foods and she has a love of life. Her dream is to be the first in our family to make it to 100.

Obama's going to tell her to take a pain pill if her doctors (most of whom will be government appointed and know they have to cut costs) tell her chemo won't help?

Also...

if this bill is so spectacular... why haven't we been allowed to see the latest incarnation? Why has a bill been passed saying it is not accessible to the general public?

Did you know they held CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS about the HC bills...they wouldn't let the republicans in on the meeting... they wouldn't let the public know what was going on... so much for transparency and reaching across the isles.

When one republican senator came up with a good idea on HC, they basically told him to butt out. They always say "Where are the republicans and their ideas to reform HC?" When the republicans say "We have an idea" they say "We don't want it."

Did you know the majority of senators haven't even read the almost bible sized bill through? or that they had others read it for them and just summerize?

And

for all of you supporters of the bill... Do you ever think something has to be up when the MAJORITY of Americans do NOT want Governement run health care? We're not talking just about Republicans. We're talking moderates, republicans, conservatives, democrats, independants... If so many from EVERY party has reservations... somethings a miss.

There are 30 house democrats who are still against this bill.

We are at the highest record number of unemployment in 20 years... Obama's stimulus PROMISED that if we rushed it through like YESTERDAY... we wouldn't see passed 8%.

no matter what they say... the 10% jobless rate... and the fact I just got laid off as well as 10 others in my department due to cutbacks... is proof it's NOT WORKING.

We're suppose to trust a government who spent more money than we have available, knowing we were already in a recession caused by the previous government... and it was to our detrament.

I can talk about the "Jobs saved/created" lie, and how they turned 6 temporary jobs actually created into the fabricated 100,000 jobs... but that's for another time. This is about health care.

but now, we're suppose to trust our government who royally misjudged the economy and their TRILLION dollar stimulus plan.... with our LIVES? With a TRILLION dollar health care plan?

Do you supporters of Health Care reform REALLY understand what just got passed, and how it's going to effect those you want to help?

Finally

Did you know that over 40% of doctors are of the age where they can retire or take an early retirement... the majority of them have expressed that if this bill passes and becomes law... they will retire. 40% is almost 80,000 doctors. Can we really afford to lose that many?

Back, and Limbaugh

Sorry it's been so long since I've fought the good fight, but I am back. (I've been on "vacation" because of fun personal changes... good ones ^_^)

Now to Rush Limbaugh who is now out of the running for being an owner of the Biggest losers in the NFL. (Everyone should know the story already - so onto my commentary about it.)

This is sick, sick, sick.

A monster like VICK who tortured dogs, electrocuted them, ripped off their limbs while they were still alive, kicked them, beat them, starved them, bought small dogs specifically to feed them to the fighters…

he’s more of what the NFL is looking for right?

So, They’re going into private businesses, taking over, and firing people who own the businesses… they’re taking over our banks and our bank accounts, they’re taking over our Health Care…

Now they are taking it to the senate floor to protest a PRIVATE CITIZEN with the money, buying a FOOTBALL team. Seriously? That is something that needs to be protested on the senate floor?? A private citizen becoming an owner of a non-political sports team?

Say what you will about Rush (and most of what these liberals are saying they KNOW to be false or misquotes… like ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ which the liberals intentionally forgot to mention, wasn’t a Rush term as they were claiming, The Magic negro was a term coined by a fellow black liberal from the LA Times… (Thus the line where he says… The LA Times they called him that)

but he loved football, he has the money… and who else would really want these losers who couldn’t win a game even if the other team tried handing it to them as a gift, complete with a pretty bow.

Sure they’re all protesting now, but when it comes down to it, would the players really quit?

Fine, let them… who else would pay MILLIONS of dollars for a bunch of losers who can’t pull themselves together during the game? They wouldn't be able to find another team to even hire them as waterboys let alone pay them millions to be the same losers they are now.

Then they bring up Rush’s drug use…

TED KENNEDY ANYONE? didn’t the drunk KILL a woman, and hide the fact until AFTER her body was found? No one seemed to care about that, but god forbid Rush should have to check into rehab for a drug problem that didn’t end up with someone dead.

This is becoming a sick world. Our nation is going to pot. this is the worst case of hypocrisy.

Freedom of speech? not if you’re conservative
Peace love and tollerance? Only if you’re a brainwashed liberal

Don’t think like the liberals, they will DESTROY you. Not just argue with you or take you to task in a debate or get on their little liberal shows that no one watches or listens to... and go to town on Rush and conservatives… they will ruin your life, they will take you down and wipe you out. They will crush you.

So much for tollerance.

This is beyond wrong. This is turning into a conservative witch hunt.

by the way... you want to talk about what Rush has said over the years? how about this from Chris Matthews... (who will be hailed as a hero.)

"You guys see Live and Let Die, the great Bond film with Yaphet Kotto as the bad guy, Mr. Big? In the end they jam a big CO2 pellet in his face and he blew up. I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody's going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he's going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we'll be there to watch. I think he's Mr. Big, I think Yaphet Kotto. Are you watching, Rush?"

how mature... if not somewhat threatening of you Mr. Tingle up my leg Matthews.

Stimulus not meant to stimulate?

I'm shocked at Obama's bold faced lie. I watched him on CNN as he said, the Stimulus was not suppose to save the economy, only give it a small boost.

REALLY?

from what I remember he said, it would create all these jobs, 3.6 million was the estimate, it would get people spending again, it would keep unemployment below 8%, it would help keep taxes down for the working class, the housing market could finally recover.

If we DIDN'T support the stimulus we were DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED. businesses would fail, the stock market would be obliterated, people would be homeless.

now it wasn't MEANT to do all of that... it was only meant to give it a boost.

Some boost. Job loss at an all time high (over 8%), small businesses closing, the stimulus bill spends BILLIONS on food share and welfare... but with the few things that WOULD create actual jobs... $700,000 or less. BILLIONS on walfare, a couple thousand for jobs. grrreeeeaaaaatttttt

Obama also said on that interview, the stimulus is working as planned. After all, it cut millions of tax dollars for the working class.

Really... then why did my mom LOOSE an extra $100 a month on her check because of HIGHER federal taxes?

What about when cap and trade goes into effect and the working class are taxed for energy efficiancy? What about when WE Energies has to raise its energy cost by 5 to 7%? What about when property taxes sky rocket thanks to Doyle? What about when realty agencies have to let people go, or close down because the housing market will be ruined by cap and trade.

I am actually LIVID at the bold face LIE Obama spewed on my tv. He promised this stimulus was a miracle drug when he was pushing it, now that the public has come down from it's high and realized the effects didn't last long enough... now he claims "It wasn't meant to help that much people. It was only meant to give you a momentary high. if you want another hit... you'll have to support a second stimulus."

after he claimed our only hope was this stimulus... he now says it was only meant to be a boost, not a cure. Well it failed at boosting miserably too. NOW he wants to implement ANOTHER stimulus.

if it fails once, try it again and pray that it will work this time. Give me a break.

and people still say this man who missed more key votes in his 4 year senate career than McCain missed in 20 and Clinton missed in 7... this man who had no major accomplishements outside of naming a day after someone no one knows... is still qualified to be president?

If this guy lied in our face about the stimulus, do you really think he's ready to stand up against Kim Jong Il or handle a war in Afghanistan?

*Sigh* Rant over.

Notre Dame and Catholics should be ashamed

The one truth that is infallible in the Catholic church is that life is precious, and life begins at conception.

Today thousands of graduates cheered, changed "yes we can" and honored Obama with an honorary degree at the Catholic institution of Notre Dame.

These loose moraled, baby killers should not be allowed to call themselves Catholics... and yes they are baby killers. Anyone who supports Obama is.

Obama is for embryonic stemcell research - stem cells taken from aborted fetuses.
Obama refused to sign the born alive infant act protecting babies born alive after a botched abortion attempt. The refusal to sign has led to many living babies being forced to die lonely, and long deaths.
Obama reinstated a law that sends our taxpayer dollars overseas to fund abortions in other countries on our dime.
Obama has hired a woman to his cabinet that is pro-late term abortion (the murder of babies old enough to survive outside the womb.)

Not to mention - when this supposed Christian man spoke at another college, he made them cover up all Christian religious symbols.
this year's national day of prayer was silent at obama's request. He's obviously ashamed of his Christianity.

He also hired a pro-gay marriage sympathist to his cabinet, and homosexuals are not recognized as a couple that can enter the holy sanctity of religious marriage.

So Obama has done EVERYTHING he can to spit in the face of God... and these supposed Catholics at this supposed Catholic church started chanting "yes we can" in defense of Obama when one graduate yelled out "abortion is murder."

Shame on those who support Obama, who voted for him, and support Notre Dame for their decision to have him speak and honor him with a degree.

The pope should come down hard on these cathlics (who are only Catholics by name, not deeds) and Notre dame demanding the college to remove their Catholic identity from their title, and to tell these obama supporting Catholics they need to repent or face being outsed from the church.

There are a few infallible laws of the church that have not changed since the time of Christ... and one law is the sanctity of life.

In the bible, unborn children are referred to as sons and daughters as if they are already lives...

"They mutilated their sons and daughters by fire…till the Lord, in his great anger against Israel, put them away out of his sight" (2 Kings 17:17-18).

Notice that this practice was a religious ritual. Not even for "religious freedom" can the killing of children be tolerated.

This is not something you can say, "Well abortion is never going to be stopped, and this guy is promising me more money in my check." You can not trade your Catholic morals and beliefs for greedy purposes, otherwise, what good are morals and beliefs if they can be so easily thrown aside like trash?

besides, look... today the job rate is the lowest it's ever been, it's getting lower as more and more business close, file bankrupcy or need bailouts. I haven't seen a reduction in taxes... in fact... we're getting slammed with more taxes where I live which is why I'm moving out of this state. I don't see him reaching across the isles... the only thing he's done is hire a republican to be the embassador to China. Basically someone we'll never hear from who has little to no power. He's broken promises on peace, recently a US Led airstrike in Afghanistan killed more civilians than enemy combatants. Obama tried to deny it, but it was backed up by the red cross and the UN. He also promised we'd be out of Iraq. We're still there, and now he's talking leaving 50,000+ troops after pulling more out. The ones he pulls out will likely be sent to afghanistan instead of brought home.

Wow, we really did a great job going against what we believed in for a few selfish reasons that never came to be. I hope you "Catholics" sleep well at night knowing every day a baby is murdered on your tax dollars in some other country.

The word of the LORD came to me, saying, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations" (Jeremiah 1:4-5).

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy"

US airstrike in afghanistan... where are the antiwar people?

An Airstrike in Afghanistan kills 100... here's the key...

according to the red cross...

the majority of victims

WERE CIVILIANS

U.S. officials initially disputed Afghan claims of large numbers of civilian casualties. Later, the United Nations and Red Cross backed up the higher tallies.

where's the outrage, the cries of "Bring our troops home", the cries of "Our soldiers are baby killers" that there was during the Iraq war?

Where's the protestors outside of the whitehouse with signs that say "War is murder"?

I'm not saying what we're doing in Afghanistan is right or wrong... I'm saying that the liberal double standard is absolutely hilarious.

if this were Bush who sent our troops to afghanistan and civilians were killed... they'd have called for his impeachment by now.

Binden.. oh Biden

The US Government has made a point of telling citizens that there is no need to fear traveling. They are not closing the borders, they are not denying entry into the US and if you follow safety and sanitary rules... you should be ok to get on a plane, train, subway or bus.

Biden has basically been set aside for the first 100 days of Obama's administration. He's been quiet... hidden in the shadows like Gollum from Lord of the Rings... "Obama my preccccccioussssesssss"

Then came an interview opportunity. The Obama administration said... "Let's give it to good ol' Joe. No way he can screw this one up."

"I wouldn't recommend my family to travel to Mexico... It's not just going to Mexico, if you're any place in a confined aircraft and one person sneezes it goes all the way through the aircraft," he told Matt Lauer. "That's me. I would not be at this point, if they had another way of transportation, (I would not be) suggesting they ride the subway."

Now the American public are worrying...

"Does Biden know something we don't know? Is there something we should be concerned about? Why are the Mexican/American borders still open then? Why don't they put a restriction on travel to protect the country?"

So now, of course, white house is doing damage control for good ol' Joe again.

so much for the first 100 days glow.

The Swine Flu: Should you worry?

Putting the swine flu into perspective.

In the US during the height of flu season... the rate of death is 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour.

So let's break that down.

in the Swine flu cases... There are almost 2000 confirmed cases in Mexico with about 200 deaths over the last few weeks...

about 60 cases from America and other countries that have not led to deaths as of this time.

So when it comes to the swine flu... it seems it is currently less deadly than the normal influeza season in America. 200 deaths world wide in the last week, compared to 1,225 deaths in america alone during the normal flu season...

To me I'd be more afraid of the normal flu than this swine flu...

So... why is it so deadly in Mexico? Well there is specualation, none of which the media is really covering.

here's the story of the first swine flu victim according to the associated press:

Leyva's widow said he first noticed flu symptoms on April 13, and went to the local clinic in Xonacatlan (Shoh-nah-cah-TLAN). No one was available to give him a checkup, but he was given a shot and felt well enough the next day to make the 40-mile bus trip to Mexico City, taking subways to work despite a nasty cough.

Too sick to work again after that, he still had no medical care except for a penicillin injection his niece gave him. By the night of April 19, he was having trouble breathing and had an irregular heartbeat, and so his family took him to the nearby city of Toluca, where the poor can get discounted care at a large public hospital.

By 8 a.m. the next day, he was dead. His family was told the cause was a heart attack brought on by pneumonia.

notice key words - no one available to give him a check up... neice gave him penicilin shot (no word on if the niece was even a nurse)... where the poor can get discounted care...

it's also important to note, his neighbor had loose running pigs next door.

not to mention, this is the middle of the flu season in Mexico... so there could have been a secondary virus no one knows about, that the swine flu victims were already sick with.

unlike here in America where health care and sanitation are better, Mexicans are crowded by the millions in small cities... so infections and secondary infections are easier to pass. So it's possible those who died were already sick from the normal flu season - or became ill with a secondary infection, and that the cause of death was not completely related to the swine flu after all.

I don't know why they aren't focusing on this in the media...

the fact sanitation is bad in Mexico, the fact healthcare sucks there...

I mean look at this guy... he didn't get checked over, his neice who wasn't referred to as a nurse, gave him penicilin even though she didn't know what he was sick with... then he had to go to a city were the poor can get discounted care. The guy was living next to a neighbor with a small pig farm... it couldn't have been sanitary...

methinks that may have contributed to the swine flu deaths. I think people are afraid to say it because it would be insulting to Mexico/Mexicans.

but we need to keep these things in mind...

there are plenty of the antivirals to go around
Healthcare is better here in america
sanitation is better
they are working on a vaccine for incase this becomes pandemic

also, we know how many serious deaths and illnesses there have been in Mexico... but there could be thousands more mild cases like we've seen here in the US that have gone undiagnosed/treated, and people have recovered.

the fact this is so widespread, and the fact that there are millions of people so crammed together in Mexcio... it would only reason there are more cases than we know about... who've recovered and gone about their lives not knowing they were sick with this flu.

So while we should always worry about a pandemic... i don't think it's time to say "the world is coming to an end."

I know people want to point out the 1918 pandemic that killed millions, but remember, we're over 100 years more advanced in medicine and technology than they were back then when they were still using leeches.

not to mention with SARs, the Avian flu, Swine Flu, and so on... we're more ready for a pandemic than we were back when.

Just remember these tips:

Wash your hands frequently
carry hand sanitiser when out in public
avoid heavily crowded places unless necessary until this slows down
avoid using public restrooms unless necessary
cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing
avoid sick people... (like family or friends.) if they're really sick, and you can't avoid them, wear a mask...

and above all, if you develop flu like symptoms... high fever, chills, aches, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and/or diarrhea, talk to your doctor. They can test you for the flu... and put you on the two antivirals that are effective against this flu strain.

and pray. pray pray pray that the worst never comes. That's the problem with our nation. not enough prayer.

visit http://cdc.gov for more info.

Pet service reminder:

As an animal lover, I want to remind those who have pets that it is flea, tick and mosquito season.

ticks can carry lymes disease as well as rocky mountain spotted fever. Some can cause paralysis.

Fleas and mosquitos are transmitters of the potentially fatal heartworm.

So please make sure to start your pets on the proper preventatives if you do not currently have them on year round.

Please also get the preventatives from a vet. While cheaper... store/internet bought prescriptions are rated at 30% effective, which means 70% of the time they don't work. Saving a few bucks is not worth risking your pet's health...

So go to a vet, get them tested to make sure they are heartworm and lyme's negative, then get the proper preventatives so they can have a happy and healthy summer.

also remember proper grooming, and have shelter/water available for hotter days.

Here's a grooming tip.. heavy fur can make them hotter... but being naked can cause problems for your pet too, believe it or not they need fur to cool themselves as much as to warm themselves... so talk to your groomer about the proper summer cut for your pet to keep them cool and comfortable.

Obama's grade: A... USA's grade: F-

Well we're well into the Obama administration, so it's time to come out with the midterm report card.

Obama gets an A.

Yes... an A from me, his hardest critic. Why?

Because he's doing exactly the stupid things I knew he was going to do, which is why I didn't vote for him in the first place. He hasn't broken any promises to me because I had his number from the get go. So he's just doing exactly what I knew he was going to do... So he get's an A.

Plus I do agree with how he took the credit card companies to task. The one thing I actually agree with him on.

The Country however... get's as low of an F as is humanly possible.

Here we have the first president ever to bow to kings like he's beneath them...
Here we have a president who apologizes to the world that we are a strong country who will take no shit that could endanger our citizens
Here we have a president who makes apologies for being a country who goes to bat for those who need help
Here we have a president who is the first president EVER to attack a previous administration relentlessly... (Even Bush didn't go off blaming Clinton at every turn even for Clinton caused issues.)
Here we have the first president to ever apologize for a previous administration that has no reason to apologize to anyone.
Here we have a president who spent more in 2 months than any president has spent in the history of America...
Here we have a president that wants to undermine our intelligence by investigating tough interrogation tactics, (even though the enemy does worse to our men and women and innocent civilians)...
Here we have a president that goes against the majority of the people's will, without blinking an eye
Here we have a president that promises peace, then keeps troops in Iraq and sends more to Afghanistan
Here we have a president who is refusing to take bailout repayments so he can maintain control over the banks and OUR money...

Here we have a president that has basically lied, cheated, stole, allowed free thinking Americans who don't agree with him to be called terrorists, sympathised with dictators while treating his own country like we should be ashamed of being free...

And yet the country will NOT take him to task, they will NOT speak badly of him, and they praise him at every turn for turning our country into yellow bellied weaklings... and when you get those with the guts to stand up to this sick display of cowardice... they're told they're unamerican... Exactly what the Liberals whined about being called for the same thing... the right to protest what you feel is an injustice.

After all of this... Obama has a 65% approval rating.

people say the country is still headed in the wrong direction, they still say our economy is not getting any better, they have no faith in the stimulus... some are even upset at the whole War in Afghanistan... while not withdrawing all the troops from Iraq...

yet he is still praised as being the best president this country has ever had, when all he's done is make things worse with no sign of it getting better.

So this country gets a big fat flying "F". It's not Obama's fault... our citizens are doing it to ourselves. Obama is being exactly who everyone knew he'd be. It's our faults he's getting away with it, and was even allowed to do it in the first place. so we can't blame him.

What does Perez say to Obama?

Obama basically said what Miss California said. Religiously and personally he believes a marriage is defined as a man and a woman.

Perez is a Obama backer.

What does he have to say to that?

Perez Hilton is an idiot.

seriously, I don't try to be PC, but I also don't try to be insensative... however, in this case, I have to say...

"Shut up Perez Hilton you flaming homo!"

(And yes, I have a few gay friends I've said that to yesterday... they're not offended so I stand by my comment.)

Hilton was a judge on Miss America last night... and he asked Miss California about Gay Marriage.

Miss California, instead of lying, going against her principles and morals, and without giving a stupid "whatever is whatever" answer...

She answered respectfully and honestly that she believed it was great in America people could choose who they loved whether it was a man or woman... but at the same time, the way she was raised and what she believes is that the sanctity of marriage is saved for a man and a woman.

Not only did that honesty probably cost her her crown... but it caused Perez to go out on a flaming homo whine fest.

"Oh I gave her the perfect out. she could have said politics wasn't her thing, or that given some non-committal answer."

In otherwords he wanted her to be for gay marriage, or lie that she was. There was no room for other honest opinions or beliefs.

Look you idiot... if you don't want an honest answer, don't ask the question moron.

He talks about HER intollerance... yet because she gave a respectful, and HONEST answer, he attacks her for that honest answer based on her beliefs.

why is it ok to be FOR gay marriage, but it's not ok to be NOT for it? How is that tollerant?

In many religions, mine included, Marriage is based on a holy sacrament given to us by God from the day he created Adam and Eve (not adam and steve as they say.) Thus a holy union is between a man and a woman. Why do we have to be tollerant of Perez's view... yet we have to suffer the intollerance of our religious points of view? Christians suffer intollerance every day for our belief in God and belief that marriage is between a man and a woman... Why should I be tollerant when people aren't tollerant of my point of view? No respect for me, no respect FROM me.

I feel the same as Miss California does. If they want a civil union, that's one thing... fine...I'm not asking for them to lose that right to say "we're committed."

but marriage is religiously sacred in my opinion, and thus should be between a man and a woman, as homosexual relationships is not recognized by most Christian churches... The fundamental believe is based on God's words to Adam and Eve - be fruitful and multiply.

It is an impossiblity for a gay couple to consumate their marriage... their sexual organs can not combind together to become one flesh and make flesh from that union. In otherwords, they cannot bare children. Sexual intercourse is the sign of marriage and the act of sexual intercourse is the renewal of the covenant of marriage... so two same-sex people can never complete their marriage.

For this reason it is intrinsically impossible for two people of the same sex to marry. It is not discriminatory, it is not homophobia, and it is not hatred of gay people. The marital act can simply never occur between two people of the same gender.
that's just how it is... that's my opinion, deal with it.

I know the argument "there are many heterosexual couples who can not have children". that argument is mute however, because that is between them and God... it doesn't change the fact that in religious aspects, marriage is meant for procreation, creating flesh from becoming one flesh... and homosexual couples can not do that. Unlike a heterosexual couple, there is not even a chance of being able to do that... thus in religious aspects, marriage between gay couples is not possible.

That's just how it is, that's how our Christian beliefs work, it's not going to set anyone back 1,000 years, or change anyone with different opinion's minds, and it's not causing serious physical or emotional harm... so it should be respected, especially if you want that respect back.
Basically here it is...

if you are for Gay marriage and want people to respect that, you have to respect the opinions of the people who DON'T believe in Gay marriage. That's just the way it is. How can you demand tollerance when you yourself are intollerant of other religious or personal opinions?

And if you don't want an honest answer, don't ask an honest person for an answer to a question you don't want an answer to. And if you decide to ask the question anyway, stop whining you little bitch. LOL

Ok rant over. lol.

The problem, believe it or not, is not Obama.

Our country is going to hell in a handbasket, but not because of Obama. believe it or not, that's true. Obama is not the one ruining this country.

It's because of so-called Christians who toss aside their morals for false promises, or because it's the "in" thing to do and they want to be liked.

Notre Dame... a supposed Christian school - not only asked Obama to speak at the graduation... but they want to give him an honorary degree! Obama! A man who believes that children born alive after an abortion attempt don't have the right to live, who is so radical on his views of abortion and seeks to destroy the sanctity of marriage. The man who wants Christians to be silent to not offend the Godless.

Yet they're giving him an honorary degree.

Georgetown University - Had Obama speaking. Prior to, Obama told them to cover all religious symbols as to not offend non-Christians... even though this is a Catholic and Jesuit founded school. Yet he demanded this private Christian school to cover up the religous symbols their school was founded on. And the freakin morons did it.

That's the thing.

People thought Obama would save our Country's economy. People claimed Obama would bring our troops home, people claimed Obama would put extra money into our paychecks.

So they went against all of their Christian morals and values, they voted against the very fundamentals of the church, fundamentals like the sanctity of life which is an infallible law... meaning, abortion is a sin, supporting abortion is a sin, no ifs ands or buts about it. You can't bury your heads in the sand and say "I didn't know that voting for someone who is against the sancity of life was a sin against my religious beliefs..."

and for what?

Our economy is still tanking. Today we were up almost 130 points, Obama gave a speech, and we dropped to 90. every time he talks, we tank. Obama has spent more money in 2 months that we ever have since the first American President, George Washington... and it hasn't helped our economy one ioda.

Taxes? The major tax cuts haven't seemed to happen, the rebate we're getting is equal to $11 extra in our paychecks, which equals the exact same thing Bush gave us in one lump sum last year... and the taxes he's removed (which have been few) are being replaced by made up taxes under the guise of "saving mother earth".

And as for our troops?

The ones who are coming home are being signed up for a terrorist watch list because they dared to do what our country told them to do... and the rest are being sent to Obama's Iraq.. Afghanistan.

Was this really worth going against God? Do you supposed Christians have no fear about the wrath God will lay into you for daring to put the Godless above him? to actually be ashamed of our lord and Savior that you would hide his image at the request of Godless S.O.B's?

Obama isn't the problem with our country. He's just another politician trying to pull the wool over our eyes, and we have to put up with.

It's these supposed wishy washy heads in the sand, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil Christians that are turning this country into a joke. Its those who will throw away all morals, beliefs and principles to "be liked", to not offend, and for selfish hopes of profit that are screwing this country up.

These Christians should be ashamed. not Obama. he's just being true to himself. that's more than I can say for my supposed Christian brothers and sisters. that is the problem with this country. It makes my heart very sad.

just a suggestion... you can be sensative to other nationalities and religions (or lack there of) without setting aside your morals and beliefs. You don't need to cover the religious symbols that make you who you are as a follower of Christ to appear sensative. Grow up.

Our soldiers will need to register as terrorists.

any soldier that returns from Iraq, are being targeted as terrorists. It is said when they return from Iraq, they will need to join some registry so they can "be kept track of".

they are also targeting people who attend these group functions, like the tea party. I'm probably on the list already for running this conservative blog. Hopefully my name is near my hero Sean Hannity. Lol.

that was another thing. Some dildo on CNN said she refused to cover the teaparties because the protests were anti-american.

So Liberals were crashing the republican conventions, they were protesting the war at every turn, they were belittling and protesting the white house for all 8 years of the Bush administration, they protested our soldiers calling them baby killers bombing innocent civilians, and complained when people implied they were traitors.

But now the conservatives have their own protests because of something they believe in... fake causes like carbon printing (that has been disproven time and again), so they can lower taxes as promised, only to raise them again in the name of "the good of mother earth." it's insane. People don't even realize how we're getting taxed right under our noses.

but I digress.

CNN claims they are the most fair and balanced of all the stations... yet this dildo refused to cover the teaparties because she says the protests were unamerican.

Are you freakin kidding me?

this country is going to hell in a handbasket ever since liberals took over. I don't even recognize our country anymore.

Freedom of speech, Freedom of the Press, Freedom OF religion (not FROM religion, OF religion), all are under attack.

Morals and personal principles are under attack. They're telling us we HAVE to fund abortion attempts... even for forigeners overseas, even if it goes against our religious morals and beliefs... and now they're trying to say Doctors HAVE to perform abortions, even if they believe Abortion is murder and are morally opposed to it.

something is wrong with this country... we are in very dire times indeed. I hope we wise up soon and get them out of office come 2012. we need a strong conservative leader. we need God back in our lives, we need morals and values put back into our country. We need to grow some balls and worry less about insulting people, and more about being a strong, and moral country who stands by our principles, who other countries look to in time of need, and fear enough to not consider attacking us, and to worry if they attack our allies.

We need to stop listening to these liberal nutholes on CNN and PMSNBC and start thinking for ourselves. Most liberals I talk to simply repeat what dildos like Chris Matthews say word for word. Maybe we conservatives tend to watch FOX, but at least we come up with our own beleifs and opinions. Liberals are like mindless drones who need to be told how to think by liberal leaders.

It's time to make a stand. I'm not condoning extremist behavior. I deplore that kind of behavior on all sides, conservatives and liberals... but we need to take a moral stand, and not back down in the name of being PC. that's what I'm saying. If we do that, there will be hope for the entire country.

Conservatives are now terrorists

Watch out Tea party goers... anyone who speaks their mind, disagrees with the current government, or claims to be a conservative, will officially be under the scrutinizing gaze of Homeland security as a possibly terrorist threat.

I'm sorry. that's all I can type because I'm too busy laughing.

after the tanking of the economy every time he speaks, the tax evaders in his cabinet, the tax increases he's talking about, the lift of the embryo stemcell ban, the decision to send our taxpayer dollars against our will so forigeners can kill babies on our dime, telling doctors the HAVE to kill babies if a woman wants an abortion even if it goes against their moral and religious beliefs... NOW telling us we CAN'T be conservative or we're potential terrorists.

all I can say now is... told you so.

Obama won't accept resignation

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is having a tough week. It's caused Obama to come out and say he wouldn't accept Geithner's resignation even if he submitted it.

It came ahead of a critical week for Geithner, who is expected to unveil his much-anticipated bank bailout plan and flesh out the administration's proposals for financial regulatory reform when he appears before the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee.

While political class praise Obama for sticking behind Geithner... the average joes aren't as kind.

according to Rasmussen, a national telephone survey found that America’s Populists see things from an entirely different perspective. Just 12% of Populists have a favorable opinion of Geithner. Not a very good review from voters.

Rasmussen continues: The findings are especially telling as calls increase for Geithner's resignation following the disclosure that American International Group (AIG) paid its executives $165 million in bonuses after receiving a $170-billion taxpayer bailout to stay in business. Geithner was aware of the bonuses and did little or nothing to stop them.

Why Obama's rating is as high as it is, is still surprising to me. He can't pick a decent cabinet, he makes gaffes that Bush would have been crucified for, according to a gallup poll, Forty-two percent of Americans now say the United States made a mistake in sending troops to Afghanistan, up from 30% earlier this year and establishing a new high... on the heels of rumors Obama will be sending MORE troops (while the percentage of people who thought Iraq was a mistake falls.)
73% of Americans recently polled are unhappy with the state of the nation... after a high on the 20th, Those who believe the economy is getting worse has gone up by a point while those who believe it will get better whent down a point, so the high is starting to go away, the public support for the spendulus bill dropped considerably this month...

yet Obama still seems to have favorable ratings? Are people THAT afraid to speak out against Obama? I mean, his main cabinet picks were people who dodged their taxes, his spendulus bill is officially adding an extra 4 TRILLION dollars to our already large deficit, he and his new administration KNEW about the AIG bonuses back in October... and once he became president he did NOTHING to stop it... He promised to be a President of "Bring em home" peace... yet he's leaving 50,000+ troops in iraq, and putting more troops in Afghanistan...

he has shown the inexperience everyone was worried about...

I mean, COME ON PEOPLE! If this were Bush... he'd have been impeached like yesterday.

Anyhoo... I love the show red-eye on fox news, so when I found this clip thanks to Right Wing Wacko Mom I thought I had to post it here. They're saying exactly what I said about the double standard there is for Obama, especially in the MSM.

Obama and Biden BOTH open mouth and insert foot.

Biden offered us this wonderful quote recently when talking about how governors spend the stimulus money.

He said he and Obama can't tell governors what they can and can't do with the money, but he CAN tell them if what they're doing is stupid.

He followed it up with this remark.

"the ONLY thing Obama has gotten right is when he said, 'you don't mess with Joe'."

The ONLY thing Obama has gotten right?

Obama has taken a page out of Biden's book it seems. When talking to Jay Leno (I don't know if it was the Tonight's show, or Leno's new show...) when talking about how he bowled a 129 on the white house bowling lanes.

"That's very good Mr. President" Leno remarked.

"It's like the special olympics or something." Obama replied trying to crack a joke at the expense of the mentally handicapped.

As the LA Times' Robert Lloyd said...

Now this is the sort of remark that, sadly, has become commonplace in contemporary humor. But it's nothing you'd want your president to say, or even to think.

Mr. Obama, please stay home and work on our economy, and leave the jokes to the comedians.

Stem cell ban lift now what Dems expected.

So Obama lifted the ban on Embryonic stem cell research last week. Bush's executive policy additionally had limited researchers receiving federal aid to just 21 stem cell lines created before August 2001. Obama's reversal allows them to use hundreds of other stem cell lines already in existence.

This is despite the scientific evidence that Embryonic stem cells have no more value than stem cells you can get from a living adult or from the umbilical cord of a new born... which has been proven by many treatments on adults who have used their OWN stem cells in those treatments.

However I digress.

Even though Obama lifted the ban on embryonic stem cell research... on Wednesday he signed a bill that BANS the federal funding for said embryonic stem cell research called the Dickey-Wicker ammendment.

the Dickey-Wicker provision still prevents federally backed researches from creating their own stem cell lines, blocking their access to hundreds of new embryonic stem cell lines, usually from embryos left over from fertility treatments that would otherwise be discarded.

This has left a bad taste in many democrats mouths.

This could be why Obama's approval rating has fallen to be almost even with Bush's approval rating around this time in 2001.

Brits don't like Obama - but I like Huckabee

First Obama insulted the Brits by sending back a bust of Winston Churchill, given as a gift to the Bush administration... when it was offered to stay in the white house for 4 more years, Obama sent it back.

Now, the British Prime Minister gives Obama a very respectful gift... a pen holder crafted from the wood of a british ship that served on anti-slavery missions in Africa.

In return Obama gave the Prime Minister DVDs, including ET, Starwars and the Wizard of Oz... all of which can be purchased at Walmart for under $20.

It is to be noted, the Prime Minister is not known for being a movie buff.

The Brits are insulted, which is understandable... we'd be insulted by the same treatement. The British media have called Obama arrogant and rude.

I mean seriously? DVDs you can get off of Amazon.com for ten bucks as a gift to the Prime Minister?

that's just plain stupid. I thought he was suppose to heal relations with other countries. Instead he goes around insulting them.

Kind of how he promised No more earmarks and that he'd go line by line to erase any wasteful spending from bills... yet we're spending over a billion dollars to study swine gas. You heard it right... we are researching pig farts.

if that isn't the very meaning of pork...

They blame republicans for all the earmarks... yet Obama is willing to sign the bill without challenging it.

I just can't find the words anymore.

however, one thing I can say is... I love Mike Huckabee! He was on Sean Hannity tonight, and guess what he said?

"Everytime Obama talks about helping our economy, the DOW crashes"

SEE? SEE? I'm not the only one who sees it after all!!

I shouldn't be so giddy about the DOW... BUT...

Remember since early February how I've been saying, whenever Obama stays out of sight, the dow rallies, and when he talks the DOW plummets thus meaning it's Obama, not Bush causing our economy to make poopy?

Time and time again I've proven this to be the case. I have documented every day "dow is up, no Obama." "dow's down today, Obama had a speech."

I have a lot of nay sayers who insist one isn't related to the other, that the DOW has nothing to do with Obama, the stimulus plans, the budget bill, the nationalization of banks and health care reform.

REAAALLLYYY now?

Again, the DOW was up yesterday to the joy of average joes like my mom who has 50% of her pension wrapped up in stocks...

Obama did not have any meetings/speeches, at least none that were heavily reported by the media.

Today the Dow ended almost 300pts down... Obama had a healthcare reform speech today.

THANK YOU Obama for proving my point. THANK YOU for vindicating me and proving that everytime you talk the DOW plummets, everytime you stay out of the media, the DOW Rallies or doesn't lose AS much as it would otherwise.

Now you can stop proving my point for me and do something to fix this already!

Dow Rallies, Obama relatively quiet.

Obama has been quiet today, at least... if he has given a speech today it hasn't been covered.

so of course, the DOW has rallied.

Further proves my point, it's when Obama signs a document, or makes a speech, or comes up with a new earmarked piggy bill... that the DOW drops.

When Obama is relatively quiet... the DOW rallies.

See? All we have to do to get back to good is not allow Obama to make any speeches or sign any bills.

Libretards need to get over Rush Limbaugh

I laugh my ass off whenever I turn on MSNBC, CNN and such over the last few days. All they talk about is Rush Limbaugh being the head of the republican party.

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ok. look.

I always say "Rush agrees with ME" not the other way around.

I can't listen to Rush every day... yet when I do listen to him, he's usually reitterating things I've already said to other people myself.

That must mean, Rush Limbaugh agrees with ME.

Look, Rush is a conservative talk show host on the radio. Occassionally he's asked to speak at Republican functions since he's one of the more popular talk icons.

People listen to Rush either because they share the same points of view, or because they're masacistic and love to be infuriated.

Not because he's "their leader" LOLOLOLOL

That does not make him the leader of the Republican party. He's just A voice of the conservative movement stating his opinions. He may be the most popular voice, but that doesn't make him THE voice... just A voice.

You put a conservative and liberal in a room and turn on Rush... the conservative will agree with him and cheer for him, the liberal won't agree with him and will jeer him.

that's how things work. A conservative has values and morals and a liberal is a liberal. It would be that way with or without Rush.

We just like having Rush around to remind Rhinos what it means to be conservative, and because its fun to listen to a like minded person talking about truths in an entertaining way.

and because he REALLY pisses liberals off. That's the best part.

Bush's Economy or Obama's economy?

"Someone put it best when they said we were in Obama's economy since he won the election.

Firstly, the DOW was at 9,000 when the final election votes were tallied. that was considered the last look at Bush's economy.

Secondly, the DOW is anticipitory, not based on the present or past.

People buy and sell stocks based on the anticipation of what they'll do. If the stock shows a likelyhood to be successful, They will buy. If there is anticipation that the stock is losing value, they will sell.

since this is anticipitory and not based on now or the past... it shows that there is little faith in Obama's economic plans, they are anticipating that his economic plans will not be good for the country and will not do enough to stimulate the economy.

So there is little reason to blame Bush, although he will continue to so long as it works... and people will continue to believe it for another month or so. (The die hard liberals will believe it forever.) But others will quickly wise up until Obama starts making decisions that doesn't put a big red zit on the forehead of his inexperience that voters were warned about."

- as explained by a local talk show radio host during an interview with a wallstreet journal editor.

Again... DOW was up a few points today... Obama spoke, and now the DOW is currently down. How many times have I pointed this out now?